I'm not going to have anyone's back when I disagree with what they are doing.  I'm not going to help someone beat up fags or burn crosses on someone's yard.  Even if they're my brother... or sister since I don't have a brother.  Everyone seems to be in agreement that what I did was wrong - the forums aren't the only place I get that from so nobody gets to take this one personal in any way.

I didn't out anyone.  I said nothing different than anyone else said before the rant that pissed me off - greenie said go somewhere else, death_santa said BOT, I combined them.  I didn't tear kaiser down in the forum over how stupid it was for him to say we choose him or tony.  Kaiser did what he did in his wonderfully colorful style and gave his reasons in his rant.  He didn't only post it here, it's on their forum too.  It's nothing more than a personal beef between tony and kaiser that got tony banned this time - show me where it's anything other than that.  If you want to say that tony cheats, then bring proof, because that's how I thought we did things and I'm at my limit for listening to people accuse everyone of cheating.  Devil's advocate?  So it's fine for people to go around saying we ban for no reason then?  I like reasons.  Especially ones based on facts and evidence.  Not saying we can't do what we want with our server... just saying I like reasons.

Say then that the ban isn't about cheating but over the &quot;starting shit&quot; in our forums.  I'm fine with that... but he can't start shit if the adults would just ignore him.  Ginger needs to be banned too if this is the reason.  From the game server, the forums, and from TS.  Both of them and I don't think it will end with just these 2 but hell do it just to prove me wrong.  I think it's been made quite obvious that tony doesn't like kaiser... and ginger doesn't like the santas... ginger gave a pretty specific list, did she not?  I do recall being in TS the time that she references... now we have her saying it very clearly that her grudge is with the santas - she wasn't even sure which one.  I assume by &quot;vagina&quot; she meant kaiser... isn't that odd that she says she likes him when he's the one that did the kicking and banning that supposedly started this drama?  You want me to hug her and make up after saying she likes everyone here except for tool and saying that the santas would cause a problem for her &quot;relationship&quot; with dFb?  Nah... I don't have ur back on that one... the santas quitting over her bullshit grudge is just as wrong as kaiser saying he goes or tony goes.  I'm not hugging.

If I wanted to piss kaiser off more than he already was I could have tried harder or done better IMO.  I thought he was acting like a jackass with that rant and I think he's been a jackass more lately than, say 2 or 3 months ago.  Is this proof of a personal beef between me and kaiser?  I guess you're gonna have to wait and see if he ever comments on that because I'll tell you I think you're full of shit when I think you are whether I like you or not.  Actually, no, if I don't like you maybe I won't say shit and just walk away maybe because you aren't worth the bother.  Him giving me the link to his rant via private message in TS means nothing I guess?  I took it as a sign that he wanted me to say something about it... I can prove kaiser did that about as well as anyone can prove that tony cheats I bet.

If we want to go to war or whatever against ginger and anyone who follows her because they do nothing but stir up drama and bullshit then yeah, I'll have your back... if I'm around.  No matter what she'll declare herself the winner of her her little world.  Just don't ban someone and then state that using racial slurs is a reason for banning people at the same time you're calling them fag-boy and cock licker.  Is that poor form or outright hypocrisy?  It's childish at a minimum and somewhat embarrassing to me being associated with someone who can't speak without vulgarities and slurs coming out of their mouth... but he was TYPING!

The hedsteem reference... because I have such a special place for them in the back corners of my mind... their server isn't considered to be a friendly server of decent folk by anyone I've ever talked to even if some think they aren't all dicks over there... certainly not considered friendly by a clan who would have a FuckHedsteemEdition version of a map on their server?  I thought we weren't dicks.  Sorry, my mistake.  I've made a note.  Ban them all because we are all too immature to not argue on the internet and too thin skinned to take any kind of criticism from others without it causing us to fight amongst ourselves.

Everyone wants it to be done so I guess I just need to stfu.  I'm so very good at shutting up... this post is proof of that, eh?  We'll see how long I can go I guess.  Oh and the mute option is my favorite option for dealing with kaiser in TS.  Has been for awhile.  Didn't work in this case so I'll have to try extra hard to ignore any PMs from him in TS from now on... if we're ever even in there at the same time again.

I really doubt this ends with what I say or don't say and it didn't start with this single event.  This has all happened before with the same people instigating it.  Ginger now has the pleasure of believing she can control who's in dFb with the santas quitting... and god only knows how big she'll be smiling if she notices kaiser isn't around for awhile or never again.  I didn't come up with that one on my own but damn, it makes a hell of a lot of sense... but she DID say that she likes kaiser... I think... maybe I meant tony... oh well.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result.
I'm doing it, right?