I never had a problem with Liz because I don't know her really, but I might have an issue with her being brought in again so quickly. I agree that people under 21 are flighty..(case in point being Dillan) Xtacy wants to join and by all accounts is a good, fair player, and we have spoken frequently outside of UT realms and he seems a stand-up guy. I had to explain to him that a vote couldn't be put up right away because of the shit that had gone down, but here we are discussing allowing 2 old members to rejoin after they decided to leave, simply because they got bored with new clans, or not having one. To me wanting to rejoin simply because you don't like another clan isn't good enough. But that's just my opinion ...