Why ctf? Becaue, I like the challenge. How about this. We will have TWO (2) rounds. First round, CTF, second round DM. If it results in a tie, the rest of the admins and members will decide on the tie breaking match. HOw about that? Ad my MSN since I cannot add anyone. I think it has a bug or somthing Mt MSN email is Dallas@Commdown.net   Chat with you later.