[quote:7be04c64e4] My point is really that as a {dFb} member, you need to follow our guidlines. We don't let people join without being in a vote, and anything to do with the {dFb}Tags, should be discussed before changing. [/quote:7be04c64e4]

First, I've never seen any guidelines setup.  Is there a guideline book ive never seen.  All I have seen is here and there drama occurs when people misunderstood what happened.

I didn't change the dFb tag.  Fraggednation ladders are setup  to allow &quot;teams&quot; not &quot;clans&quot; to create a team with only their clan members or a combination of clan members, non clan, and many clans combined.  When I play I still wear the {dFb} tag and others use whatever.

[quote:7be04c64e4] I do however feel that MM should start playing on it more and get people to come to our server instead of trying to promote OMFG's server  [/quote:7be04c64e4]

Attempted this and it doesn't work with only one playing on it.  The only reason it &quot;might&quot; stand a chance to gain a few people on here and there is because of how well people know me.  People don't even keep dFb in there favorites anymore and I have no way of doing this  by myself.  If all of dFb was playing 99 we could all jump on when we were on especially with added members and such.  As far as our server, first its either impossible bots to beat or stand alone dummies...  I've tried to make some requests to get access to it, I've been working to learn the server side with ghosts help and everything like that.  This way I could start the server in baby stage again, create a section with reduced slots and get people on and then up the slots again.  But these new players like certain things, our gun would need to be changed (because all FUN members lag out with our gun and can't use it), the lag would need to end (this is just from what im seeing), the bots would need to be changed (cuz they are pointless).  

Like I mentioned TKK died.  There were 10-11 People who went to OMFG.  Those 10-11 people all followed Ghost because Ghost saw that dFb server was always dead and that MM (me) didn't have access to change it around a bit and probably wouldn't be able to because others would get mad and would have to wait to do anything about it... so he went to OMFG.  All those 10-11 people would of switched to dFb and with our current list dFb server would of been almost full with just members.  But no.. so making quick decisions sometimes leads to success.. and unfortunately we lost 11 good TKK members.  One of the best being included SuperSniper aka Kevlar (really nice guy).  

So i dunno greenie.. I think people overreact to quickly to nothing.  Then say what people &quot;should&quot; do but nobody else wants to chip in.  So I have no idea what to think anymore about all of this.. end of story.