ok man,  thanks for your help so far,  i re-downloaded in da crib from the link you sent me, re-uploaded everything to my server, to the proper folders, and it still doesnt work. when we vote for the map, it goes to &quot;connection failed&quot;.    something i forgot to tell you is this: there are like 6 dfb maps on my server that wont play at all, but, the sniper christmas map works.    dont know if that helps or not.      the last time i had a server, one of the other admins had to do something to make them work, and i dont know what it was man.   here are the numbers for my server if you want to have a look:  8.6.74.55:7777      i am just about ready to turn my passwords n stuff over to you if you are interested, i dont know what else to do here.