As I knew it would get kinda slammed here... here is the point... we have an empty server.  Like I mentioned I love it the way it is, but as TKK realized, spawn protection ended up hurting them in the end.  


[quote:ef4c1868fc] 1. We are not TKK we are {dFb}  [/quote:ef4c1868fc]

1.  You are correct.  But didn't you want to focus on UT3 and have me and a few other UT99 individuals that play constantly try to populate the server for us?  Reasons for me giving these suggestions.   As far as clan matches are concerned, all of competitive one's like to win.  This involves spawn protection and hating spawn killing.  But why is TKK and for that matter TNT have more players?  TKK = no spawn protection, TNT = very short spawn protection.  We have a above average spawn protection, try playing with only bots and you will see.

[quote:ef4c1868fc] 2. We just revamped the server. [/quote:ef4c1868fc]

2.  Is the map vote key set to !vote?  This was part of revamping.  At least I assumed it was.  I haven't seen it work, not that I use it anymore, but would have to check into that.  Revamping some more couldn't hurt.

[quote:ef4c1868fc] 3. No spawn protection means spawn camping, that takes no skill. TNT has spwan protection and there server is full every night. [/quote:ef4c1868fc]

3.  Sure, you will have spawn camping.  But sometimes it takes more skill to get away from spawn campers and people learn to be quicker.  As far as the noobs, they are  getting slaughtered on this as well, but at least they have a chance to get a few kills.  Again, TNT spawn protection is pretty short.


[quote:ef4c1868fc] 4. Want more people on the server you have to play on it. Thats a fact! [/quote:ef4c1868fc]

4.  Again, I agree.  However, current members and playing time = here and there.  When nobody is on the server, noobs can join, get kills easier... what noobs are use to.  

[quote:ef4c1868fc] Want to get noobs on the server then play like a noob. If they can kill you then they are more likely to stay. If they get there ass's owned they will leave. [/quote:ef4c1868fc]

Agree and Disagree.  Agree as many people don't like to get owned... however, if they have a chance to get 5-6 kills they at least stay happy.  Disagree because I can go over to TKK and own most the time, and then other TKK members own as well... but when the server is populated and mediumly populated... just because we are owning doesn't mean people are leaving.  Occasionally it happens, not often.

Anyway, I'm not trying to rep other clan servers.  However, if they are getting traffic and we aren't there are ways to change that.  I think the points I make are strongly in our advantage to gaining traffic when we are not playing.  I'm in {dFb} because I like the individuals of {dFb}.  I appreciate your comments and maybe no change will take place.  I just wanted to throw these points out there...  thank you.


Oh... Sean...

[quote:ef4c1868fc] I thought it was already decided to do the !vote thing. Take away my ability to put mapvote on a hot key and we're gonna tangle though! Take away what menu? You mean all the maps? Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of mapvote? [/quote:ef4c1868fc]

Like I said above, I thought so too.  Didn't know it was put in place.  What I was saying is not have a menu come up when you join the server, I saw TKK do that and people hated it.  When they joined they had to click off the menu and in the mean time they got owned.  Not take away the maps....

I was saying have a !vote option to get into the menu as well as keep our own map vote key.  TKK does it ... take a look.  You can do !vote... or you can just hit what you have set.

Good idea to have a seperate section with no spawn protection, this could be a substitute for my suggestion.. hmmmm...