Crap... only saw eMac's message.  Matt, yes I know how to do all this now and set a map vote key... since greenie explained it to me before joining dFb...

Even as I was not totally a noob... I only played on a TKK server before dFb.. 

So noob can  = someone that hasn't played on a map vote key server.

Before joining dFb everyone from TKK that joined dFb server was trying to figure out how to vote... Greenie saw this issue... I think postie recognized this issue and so forth.  Maybe before it wasn't a problem because a lot of people associated with dFb were playing on our server.  Now, everytime I join the server I will stay there for as much as I can but barely see any other dFb members.  Thats the original reason I brought up this issue... had nobody to explain it to me besides greenie when I asked him on MSN... that is just too much effort for someone who will simply switch to another server....

Yeah Sean... tell you the truth... when map vote came up at the end of the match, I didn't even pay attention to the other tabs... so I can understand others who join the server and have the same issue...

Anyway... just trying to throw some ideas out there... again thanks for the responses!