as far as use..yeah i suppose i did use it quite a bit...as far as me now..could be worse..could be better for sure..work comes and goes doing freelance..hopefully somthing will pop soon...in the mean time I'm getting my site finished as an example of my skillz..you can check it out @ http://www.p455w0rd.net/site3.0 - I've created everything including images myself...that directory is actually the debug (output) directory of flashbuilder..so what you see is what I see..when I scre up..you see it..atm things are misaligned cuz I was working on functionality..hopefully tonight I will be able to begin work on my portfolio page...after that will probably be flash chat integration and then forums and then the mp3 player..maybe not in that order...you said you work at &quot;DND&quot;...what's that?...lol