[quote=&quot;enoch84&quot;]Here's the list of players I've [u:f2f4da137e]wondered [/u:f2f4da137e]about.  In my mind these guys are either pro or haxors (minus Carnage and Raptor).

Carnage52 (bot/radar)
RaptorKC (bot/radar)
H4X0RX (bot)
Random54 (radar)
Jetspandex (bot/radar)
Legionz (bot/radar)
i_hax (bot)
Veremouth (bot)
Silkz (bot)

The list can easily include just about everyone, even those who we've all ready decided are legit.  Unreal looked bottish a few times.  Also the Santas and Fatballs.  I think even eMac looked like a bot once or twice.  It's impossible to tell now.  

Just look what Carnage showed me.  These are the settings for the aimbot part of his hack:

AutoAim=3
PartAim=2
AutoFire=1
AimAngle=0
Angle=45
FireDelay=1
TriggerBot=2
OnPressKey=2

See that shit?  You add all that up and you got an incredibly sneaky bot.  In fact, like I've said, I couldn't actually see any twitch when Carnage shot.  People need to realize that.  Not all botters are going to twitch.  I saw Carnage rape Paperplate with the shock rifle on a duel map (Bonescraper), but he never twitched once.  He said if he turned up the settings he would twitch though.[/quote]  

I have 1 or 2 times a week I just seem like I can hit everything. I noticed its days I just don't pay attention like I'm not aiming just using reflex if that makes since. But you can tell good players they have off days people like Raptor going from noob to pro hit scan in like a month come on. Alex from UTF is another that comes to mind his skill was something I never noticed and I played him allot of dfb. You just generally know who is a good player and who is a noob bouncing around. Alex disappeared for a while comes back crazy hit scan and apps UTF. But doesn't matter really I just play greed and DM the noobs. Starting to get back in to UT99 I miss that game. I don't like the feel of UT2004 but xfire me when your playing Enoch ill jump in.


Carnage52 (bot/radar) agree
RaptorKC (bot/radar) agree
H4X0RX (bot) Seems like it sometimes
Random54 (radar) dunno
Jetspandex (bot/radar) I wonder about toot some of the shit he pulls off
Legionz (bot/radar) dunno beat him a in a duel once didnt notice anything
i_hax (bot) agree specing leader in a pug one day I_hax was beside a pealer leader was behind him aiming. I_hax moved around it more like he knew leader was aiming at him leader moved over I_hax moved around more again like he knew leader was aiming at him. This wen't on for a while me and leader talking in vent it was like he had that thing you see on the top of a cheaters screen (enemy is aiming at you 100%).
Veremouth (bot) seems like it sometimes 
Silkz (bot) seems like it sometimes

@Boner
I have played with leader in hundreds of games and spec him hundreds of times he is just good. But thats just my opinion dueled him alot also in ut99 2k4 UT3 never once noticed anything. Dude is like a godlike bot with with the link gun tho.