craptor lives in sad diego.  if toot lives 60 miles away then hes in oceanside/carlsbad or south orange county.

dunno how, but raptor used to have higher ping than me (like 95), now he's lower.  he must have changed his internet provider or something.  maybe its a ping comp thing?  cus he did get much better about the same time.

ping isnt a great way to determine location though.  Im in norcal - eX Asil used to live 1/2 mile from me, we're both on DSL and we had similar ping to dfb (90).  Another guy Hyman something lives in the same city and his ping is 110 and he says hes on dsl...

it all depends in the tracert