So check it out..new server, maybe some new maps?  So Zero, Kaiser, Binky, a few others, and myself were playing, and mentioned the need for some larger maps.. So i started downloading and playing a few, and here is a list of some which show SOME potential (especially for a full server).   Naturally though because i can't come up with ideas of my own, i feel that some of these maps are missing things.. So i say don't add them yet, but here are some links for downloads and post some ideas on what they're missing to make them more playable in the dFb community..

VCTF-Andromeda  
http://plugh.servebeer.com/VCTF-Andromeda.zip

Plugh's latest map, I haven't found too much wrong with it. It reminds me of one of the CBP3 maps, but different.  It has some decent gameplay to it, but it might be still too crowded.

VCTF-HighTides  
http://www.fileplanet.com/200003/download/Unreal-Tournament-3---VCTF-Hightides

I like this map.  It's very canyon-y, but is missing a few avrils, there are like no powerups, and maybe needs some ammo placements and such.  But what i really like about it is the working water that comes from the broken pipes and briefly floods the canyons.

VCTF-HighwayToHell  
http://www.fileplanet.com/200133/download/Unreal-Tournament-3---VCTF-HighwayToHell

This one isn't even to be considered.  I just played it cuz of the name but it's better for a 1v1 viper race.  Honestly, download it just for shits and grins.  it sucks for vctf

VCTF-Toposiris  
http://www.fileplanet.com/200137/download/Unreal-Tournament-3---VCTF-Toposiris

an egyptian themed map. it's very wide open like Desert_Fury is, there may be a few glitches in it but i haven't found too many yet, and on a full server it would be enjoyable.

VCTF-Goddess    
http://www.fileplanet.com/199477/download/Unreal-Tournament-3---vCTF-Goddess

This map has potential, it's very basic, there's a few powerups, and some lava you could fall in.  I feel that there aren't enough vehicles for the size, and it needs more weapon placements.

VCTF-WinterBridge-Final  
http://www.mediafire.com/?j3wmw5mk4zz

This map is much like VCTF-Battleline, but i think a bit better.  It's much more open, but there are some broken meshes around the bridge, and i feel that in the wide open spaces there could be something..be it a random shield belt or a slow volume or something.

VCTF-Valhara_Nights  
http://www.mediafire.com/?4oyotziymyn

I like this map because there is space to move, paths to take from the flag..but overall the map is kinda boring.  There's really like nothing special about it.. like even if there were a health pack or a bush on the ground it would be more pretty to look at.

VCTF-Hellir  
http://www.fileplanet.com/200249/download/Unreal-Tournament-3---VCTF-Hellir

I've always loved VCTF-Hellir.  There's multiple paths to get out of the base, plenty of places to hide.. its a wide, long map with a fair amount of vehicles, good amount of pickups, and takes some strategy.  People have said they run into issues with it, but i've never had one when playing.

VCTF-Torlan_Black  
http://games.softpedia.com/progDownload/Unreal-Tournament-3-VCTF-Torlan-BlackThunder-Clan-Map-Download-24916.html

mildly broken.  For some reason the vehicles are all locked, and there are a TON of them.  when i spawn the first thing i saw were 3 vipers right across from 3 hellbenders.  If you know WAR-Torlan, you know this map.  I feel like there could be alot more to it, and I kind of want to play around with this map and make it more playable for a full server.  i.e. there doesn't need to be like 6 dark walkers.  this is by far the biggest vctf map i think i've ever seen, and it would be super crazy to make the thing work.

So like I said, don't add these yet, but i think this thread could be about how to make these promising maps into great maps.

btw.  maybe remove bloodgultch?  it's kinda broke.  there are hills you can't walk up, invisible meshes that are away from the textures, and if you look at it in the editor, the invisible portal on the red side is actually floating at eye-height from the ground. (which is why you can't drive through the damn thing). the spawn points are horrible and make you walk into the flag area which is just a pain in the ass.   I have no idea why that map gets as much gameplay as it does. that's just my opinion on the map, it is what it is.

see video;  http://www.xfire.com/video/1a6531/


haha im trying to remember what other maps are on the server right now..but all i can think of are &quot;Anarchy Halls Coda&quot;, Arena of Life, Atari_Tank_Zero_Super_Deemer_SOO ANNOYING CUZ IT FLASHES MY SCREEN haha. ..uhh.. Satellite, etc etc..you get my point, the maps that are played repeatedly.  but anywho, yeah.

edit:  I had some issues with some of those links, especially the fileplanet ones.. and i could load them to my filefront account, but i dont want to be that guy who's stealing peoples shit.  since im already the guy who's re-doing peoples shit in the editor :)