This is true- we usually slow down during the summer.  BUT our clan has been becoming less and less active and I don't think summer is the only thing to blame.  Two years ago, our clan was about as big as what UTF is now (even bigger in a lot of ways) and now we have hardly anyone that's really actively coming on TeamSpeak, playing, hanging out etc...  I don't really think it's necessarily all about the Tony and Ginger crap we had in the forums- although the end result really didn't help us.  Our clan has been becoming less active for quite a while.  I'll be in {dFb} until the end.  I think we have a great bunch of members and I'd like to see {dFb} going for long time.

To be honest I think we should start getting serious about another game (other than UT3).  I certainly don't see UT3 sustaining the clan for much longer.  When we first started playing UT3 everyone was excited about it but it went downhill after that.  We'd start getting into arguments about clan member inadequacies while playing VCTF/WAR (much more so than UT99), then we'd start complaining about bugs in the game, complaining about hacker.   Then every time I'd play all I would here is complaining.  We've been loosing more members than we gain.  If we really want to go with UT3 then we really need to think about how we're going to get the excitement back because I KNOW there are a few members that just don't play because they don't like playing UT3.

The good thing about UT99 is that everyone was into it and involved.  We had Postie and MattMan making maps, we were a pretty good team in clan matches, we had several members willing to help out the clan (make maps, mutators, member sigs and avatars, adding sections to our website, promoting the clan etc...), the hacker shit wasn't much of a problem, game bugs weren't much of a problem, we were more open to new maps, we'd have good relationships with several clans.  Everyone was relatively happy.  I don't see this with UT3.  In the two and a half years of playing UT3 we've only made ONE map, only won a couple matches, nothing really new has been going on since I made the UT3 stats page, most of the maps I put on the server are broken etc...  It took almost a YEAR before Epic even made it reasonably OK to run custom maps.  So there really hasn't been a lot to keep us interested.  I liked it when everyone was involved and I certainly would like to see that again.